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Rear Shock

Started by threepot, October 27, 2015, 08:46:53 AM

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threepot

Seems my rear shock has had it. I'm noticing a 'slap' from the back end. Been like that for quite a while,but has got worse recently. Triumph want £571 for a replacement!! :icon_eek: I've seen this make on eBay for £264. Anyone familiar with this make?
95 Super111
96 Tiger

JayDub

(Mmm, you did have Sin on the back at Rhayader :icon_wink:) Have you checked the swingarm/suspension bearings?  I would be tempted to give it a wide berth TP, I found a seller on ebay who will completely rebuild the OEM one for £265ish... you can send him the old unit first, or instead he charges a deposit until he gets one back, I posted it somewhere on here, but can't find it now.

Sin_Tiger

I'd put money on that being an "Asian" budget item judging by the cylinder construction. For that money a Hagon is probably a better bet and they are pretty good with warranties as I can vouch for.

Also I'm less than 76kg straight out of the shower  :icon_razz:
I used to have long hair, took acid and went to hip joints. Now I long for hair, take antacid and need a new hip joint

BruKen

Quote from: JayDub on October 27, 2015, 02:30:35 PM
(Mmm, you did have Sin on the back at Rhayader :icon_wink:) Have you checked the swingarm/suspension bearings?  I would be tempted to give it a wide berth TP, I found a seller on ebay who will completely rebuild the OEM one for £265ish... you can send him the old unit first, or instead he charges a deposit until he gets one back, I posted it somewhere on here, but can't find it now.

DIY. It's relatively straight forward. I posted a how too a few years back. It's somewhere in here (I'll go take a look)

EDIT. It's in the sticky

fishnbiker

Why not try the cheapest fix first? Recharge the Nitrogen reservoir to 100~125 PSI. Next, the suspension & swing arm needle bearings (& seals). You should renew them if putting in a new shock anyways.
Ken/Fishnbiker
& Felix, blue 95 Tiger, & Buzz, 08 blue Suzuki DR 650 SE, & Mini-D, 97 white Suzuki DR 350 SE

threepot

Re charge with Nitrogen,specialist job??
95 Super111
96 Tiger

Sin_Tiger

I wonder if Argon would work, know anyone with a TIG kit or a pub landlord?
I used to have long hair, took acid and went to hip joints. Now I long for hair, take antacid and need a new hip joint

ram33

Quote from: Sin_Tiger on November 03, 2015, 12:39:07 AM
I wonder if Argon would work, know anyone with a TIG kit or a pub landlord?
i think pubs use co2
tiger 885 / fzs1000
bmw 335d / rr evoque

BruKen

Quote from: Sin_Tiger on November 03, 2015, 12:39:07 AM
I wonder if Argon would work, know anyone with a TIG kit or a pub landlord?

You stirring the pot Sin?  :ImaPoser You know good old moisture free air does the trick too. Too much faffing about with Nitrogen. What were the benefits of nitrogen  :^_^ Doesn't expand on temp change or heat up under pressure? Something like that. Nitrogen also doesn't froth the oil. But as the nitrogen is in a bladder in the oil reserve I just pump in good old air to 9 instead of 10 bar and the job is a goodun. It's not like I enter the tigger to track day events and I've yet to discern any difference on the suspension which imho is never going to wow anybody on a stock steamer anyway.

JayDub

Quote from: ram33 on November 03, 2015, 12:46:59 PM
i think pubs use co2
And Nitrogen too - its prevents oxidisation but imitates traditional cask ale.
Or use nitrous oxide... then you'd be laughing!  :icon_rolleyes:

threepot

Quote from: BruKen on November 03, 2015, 02:57:38 PM
You stirring the pot Sin?  :ImaPoser You know good old moisture free air does the trick too. Too much faffing about with Nitrogen. What were the benefits of nitrogen  :^_^ Doesn't expand on temp change or heat up under pressure? Something like that. Nitrogen also doesn't froth the oil. But as the nitrogen is in a bladder in the oil reserve I just pump in good old air to 9 instead of 10 bar and the job is a goodun. It's not like I enter the tigger to track day events and I've yet to discern any difference on the suspension which imho is never going to wow anybody on a stock steamer anyway.
Nitrogen doesn't cause corrosion? Anyway,not had a look close up at existing shock,but can it be with air? Think I've seen that done on YouTube?
95 Super111
96 Tiger

Sin_Tiger

Quote from: BruKen on November 03, 2015, 02:57:38 PM
You stirring the pot Sin? 

Nope, 9 bar of air has got to be better than 0 bar of N2  :thumbsup
I used to have long hair, took acid and went to hip joints. Now I long for hair, take antacid and need a new hip joint

motoOzarks

There's a thread on advrider started where guys are using bacon grease in their shocks.
They have been using forks with bacon for years.


First reports are if you can handle the sizzle and popping at first it makes the ride out smooooooth.






Have had:  Girelli Bronco 50, Honda xr70, Yamaha YZ80, Yamaha MX175, Suzuki TS250, Honda XR350, Honda XR500, Honda XL600r, Suzuki DR200, Suzuki GS1100e, Honda Ruckas 49, BMW F650GS
Have:  Yamaha TW200, Suzuki DRZ400s, Triumph Tiger 955i

Sasquatch

When I am doing a bunch of testing on a shock, I use a small mountain bike hand pump and plain air.  The only benefits of N is the fact it is 100% dry and that it comes in a nice bottle with 2500psi in it that makes it really easy to fill shocks.  Air works just fine and no one will know the difference.  If you live somewhere very humid, having dry N is nice.

Yes, just recharging your shock will help the ride.  But I guarantee you that your shock oil is beyond dead by now.  Shock oil (and fork oil) has a limited life span.  It does a tremendous amount of work even while putting around town and there is not much in there to do it.  It needs to be changed regularly.  I tell my customers that if they want their suspensions to last a good long time service it at 2 year intervals or 25k miles.  I just did a 955i Tiger's forks that only had 12k miles on them and the fluid was horrible.  I service my forks yearly and my shock every other year.
Sasquatch
adventurepowersports.us

Sin_Tiger

We get all paranoid about our engine oil. We should change the brake fluid at least every two years.

So that makes perfect sense to me  :thumbsup
I used to have long hair, took acid and went to hip joints. Now I long for hair, take antacid and need a new hip joint